Follow the Chameleon…David Werner International is rapidly changing the 30 year old scam.

Faced with an overwhelming avalanche of negative press by their swindled clients, David Werner International is attempting to change the old scam and
keep the flow of victims knocking on his door.

In response to articles exposing this scam at; ripoffreports.com, complaintsboard.com, and pissedconsumer.com David Werner has lunched a number of self-promoting propaganda articles published in the usual free internet website such as; PRLog.com, WebWire.com, Free-press-release.com, Pr-use.net and I-newswire.com

This effort followed their attempt to silence on of their clients through legal means. On October 5, 2008 David Werner International filed, in New York State Supreme Court, legal action against their client. See the filing at:

http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/index.jsp
type the displayed text, submit and plaintiff search David Werner. Read case #112099-2008.

Soon thereafter it became very clear that they settled, most likely paying their client, to allow them to publish a retraction statement in his name. The retraction is published at ripoffreport.com report #348120 and has been posted on many rip-off reports at Ripoffreport.com.

Most if not all scams and con artists such as David Werner, when faced with this type of exposure, promptly disappear and latter reappear under a different name and with a different scam. David Werner did not do that primarily because he is belligerent but mostly because he is absolutely ignorant of the Internet. Not realizing that Internet has given everyone a powerful voice and a method to effectively expose his type of scam, David Werner has decided that flooding the search engines with his propaganda is more effective and that he will succeed in conning the public into allowing him to continue scamming his victims, $10,000.00, $20,000.00 and sometime $30,000.00 per client. This is the same con artist who claims marketing expertise and Internet savvy and who wants to “help your career”? And you are going to let David Werner teach you marketing on Internet?!?!?!?!

This con artist will soon realize that taking his clients to court and continuing to con the public through propaganda has virtually eliminated whatever value he hoped to realize from this imaginary brand, he irrationally convinced himself he has created, named “David Werner International”. After 30 years of dabbling in a consulting business, David Werner has not learned that, taking his clients to court is the fastest way to be out of consulting business. And David Werner wants you to let him manage your career?!?!?!?

On the other hand, he is a successful con artist and therefore fully capable of conning some “buyer” or some company into buying this “thing” called David Werner International. For 30 years he has been able to swindle people out of thousand and thousands of dollars.

David Werner is taking their unhappy clients to court

David Werner International - Sophisticated Scam Executive Search – Employment Services.

I also got swindled by this scam for more then $30, 000 and I wasted my time, got nothing for it and also damaged my reputation. People that I meet with today either have no idea who this character is or, are quite surprised that I paid money to have this clown “help my career”.And now David Werner is posting some settlement statement from a guy he sued in New York Supreme Court. In case you have any doubts about David Werner taking his clients to court, you can actually see the legal papers at the New York Supreme Court website. The statement is a settlement for which David Werner International may have paid. You would think that it would be better for David Werner’s “reputation” to simply return the fees to clients that are unhappy with his service; after all he tries to convince us that there is only one or very few unhappy clients. The reality is that David Werner International can not return any fees for several reasons. First, they are greedy and cheep. I actually was in the room with this David Werner when his sidekick Ted, with fear on his faces, walked in and sheepishly asked for $20 for lunch for a client. Werner made angry faces and reluctantly reached in his pocket extracting a $20 bill. I remember his hand clinched to the $20 while Ted worked hard to pull it out of David’s grip. The other reason is the fact that 99% of David Werner International revenue comes from fees for busy work and only 1% from fees paid by clients after they get a new job or make career change. If he was to return all the fees to unhappy clients he would not be in business. So he relies on the scam to get revenue from clients who will never get a new job.There is a good reason why this scam is not listed along with the top 5 or top even 100 executive search firms. As David Werner International proudly states on their website they are “Headhunters in Reverse”. They are not Korn Ferry or Heidrick & Struggles or Russell Reynolds or Christian & Timbers or Egon Zehnders. All these reputable firms get paid by the employer and if you don’t get a new job you don’t pay anything. The scam David Werner International gets paid upfront, in my case $30, 000.00, and one in one thousand may get a job . Some other ignorant individual, presumably somebody on the take and part of the scam, compared David Werner International to an agent like an agent for a Hollywood star or a sports celebrity. The ignorant perhaps does not know that agents get paid after the star or celebrity finds a new assignment NOT BEFORE.Read the other Rip-Off Reports at ripoffreport.com and at complaintsboard.com - educate yourself or David Werner will educate you and lighten your pockets in the process. Also expect David Werner International to post the same settlement agreement which they may have paid for and threaten to sue anyone client exposing the scam. Taking clients to court must be the most stupid thing they ever did. This alone should make many executives just eager to lineup and sign an agreement with David Werner International to receive their “services” and pay upfront $30, 000.00 or more.

You have better chances in Vegas

This is a very complex and sophisticated outfit. Read all the reports at www.ripoffreport.com , search on “David Werner International" and/or “David Werner" before you entangle yourself.I also paid an obscene amount of money and accomplished absolutely nothing. In fact I believe I did worse than nothing, I also associated my name with David Werner and I have damaged my reputation for a very long time.If you decide to talk to David Werner International, understand that this is a gamble, no different than going to a casino and gambling tens of thousand of dollars in the hope that you will accomplish your goal. Go to Vegas, the odds are better and you will enjoy the shows and the food. Just like you DO NOT go into a supermarket when you are hungry, you DO NOT get involved with David Werner when you are unemployed or concerned about your career. When you are planning or making decisions about your career, ONLY PAY for results not busy work which may or MAY NOT accomplish your goal. If you are looking for a new job and you are considering paying for it than, pay when you get the job not on some irrational hope that somebody like David Werner will help you get it. David Werner International does not guaranty anything except that they will take your money. Anything they do you can do it yourself and for far less dollars. More importantly, associating your name with David Werner International will damage your reputation for a very, VERY LONG TIME.Recently David Werner International has been blasting the internet with their self-promoting so called “press releases". All the websites
used by David Werner are free and based on advertising revenues, they will post any text from anybody. This is nothing but self-promoting propaganda designed to flood the search engines with their stuff and push the other information on David Werner International towards the end of the search in the hope that people will not take the time to read everything.This is about your money – Spend the time and read all the reports at www.ripoffreport.com before you throw the dice! Spend the time or you will spend large amounts of your money and get nothing in return! You have better chances in Vegas than having David Werner International “coach you" on your career.

How the Scam Works

Read more about this scam at:
ripoffreport.com, complaintsboard.com, complaints.com, pissedconsumer.com
Search for David Werner International

The Set-Up
David Werner International Corp is managed and controlled by David Werner. At the time when I met them he had a sidekick by the name of Ted Weiner. They operate from an old and mediocre building next to Grand Central in New York. It looks like they have been there for a very long time however it has the feel of a modest startup. David Werner is a master of creating perceptions and is quite careful to create an appearance of being very busy and quite inaccessible. As far as I know they never initiate contact with potential sting target. They bate and wait for the potential victim to call them.

The Bate
David Werner International places ads in print media, newspapers. They also use their website, www.dwic.com to communicate their message. I was one of many who came across their website and decided to call in order to get more information about their “services". When I called I was directed to an individual named Ted Weiner who described himself as “in charge of marketing". His first set of questions were designed to find out what my background was, my previous and current employment status and what my income is and has been for the past few years. He immediately informed me that David Werner is very busy however he, Ted, will do his best to promptly schedule my meeting with David which is required before David Werner International Corp would consider me a potential “client". And that, as a prerequisite to my meeting David Werner I must forward my current and complete resume for his review.

The Shake
After several attempts to find a window in David's busy schedule, we settled for a date and time. When I arrived I was greeted by Ted and I was asked to wait for few minutes until David was ready. After 15 – 20 minutes David made an appearance from his office and invited me in. We exchange pleasantries and than David proceeded to ask me questions about my background, education, work experience and finally my salary levels over the past few years. I did not realize then, but I know now that, what he was doing was “The Shake". He was trying to figure out what am I good for. How much cash can he get upfront because any payment tied to my getting a new job was very unlikely and therefore can't be considered as secured revenue for DWIC. He also spend time asking me and learning about my industry and my professional expertise. From his questions I realized that he had absolutely no knowledge about my industry, the level of management I was trained to perform and the companies I worked for. I did not realize then but I know now that, he was learning the basics of what he will latter use to simulate expertise in my field. At the time their website was not as large as it is today. Now I realized that his field of expertise, which is described on the website under “Bios", is very narrow. Basically if your job is not in wool, cotton, gold mining or steel manufacturing, he has no understanding about what you do. He certainly had absolutely no knowledge about my industry.He proceeded to lecture me about perceptions and how to create a specific perception in the mind of a potential employer, very much like what DWIC has on their website today entitled “Tips". I sat there and listen about many success stories of his past clients. Along the way he also talked about the “David Werner Letter" in his words “the most successful and effective engaging tool at his and my deposal". The “Werner Letter" is a simple letter that DWIC creates and sends to distribution lists in his words “so well written and so effective that it almost guarantees to open doors and often entice CEOs and Presidents of major corporations to meat with their client". In his words “it so effectively exposes your talents that inevitably they will create a new position to bring your talent into their company". What a load of …..

The Switch
At the end of our meeting David stated that “although he is very busy, because of my expertise and potential he, David, will accept me as a client and make time to fit my case into his busy schedule". They will prepare an agreement, and this is the important part, which “is a simple agreement which his attorney forces them to have their clients sign but which, because of its simplicity, does not describe all the services DWIC will provide and certainly which can't possible describe the success that we will achieve by working together". In other words, the agreement is just a formality and not at all a complete representation of what they will provide, what I should expect and what the most likely outcome will be. This is the switch – “Don't be concerned about what is on paper instead, trust my words!". His parting words were “I am now going to start working on your strategy!". As I was leaving, Ted told me that they will prepare an agreement, which I will have to sign, and which I will have to bring back with me with a check to my next meeting with David when he is going to review and update my resume and discuss the “marketing strategy".A week or so latter we met again in the DWIC office. He proceeded to make minor changes to my resume, correct some of the writing which is something that any English major could do and than we discussed the “David Werner Letter" and the mailing lists which DWIC will purchase and which will be used to produce a hard cover mailing, an emailing “blast" and specific mailing to CEOs.

The Sting
I handed them, what I consider to be, a very large check. A week or so latter after the first mailing was complete, a second check of an equal amount, as per the written agreement, was mailed to DWIC. The scam was complete. They got the money. Unlike others they did not disappear overnight, they stay where they are because they are protected by the agreement.And then - absolute silence! Many weeks would go by without any contact from DWIC. I started to get hundreds of rejected emails and from the post office, bags of returned envelopes with undeliverable address. Months went by with continuing silence. Occasionally, I would send them an email and wait for few days or longer to get a response. At the end they got my money and I have absolutely nothing to show for it - I got …. and I didn't even enjoy it!Don't let this happen to you – be smarter than me! And if you are a victim have the courage to create a Rip-Off report. DWIC is the only beneficiary from your silence and it will allow them to keep doing this to others for as long as what they do remains untold.